Don't forget to quote!!!

In the article "What College Should Teach Pt.3" Stanley Fish argues how high school are not being taught in an effective way and how students are not prepared for college. He said
“By all the evidence, high schools and middle schools are not teaching writing skills in an effective way, if they are teaching them at all. The exception seems to be Catholic schools. More than a few commentators remembered with a mixture of fondness and pain the instruction they received at the hands of severe nuns.”

Fish said that he’s not there to take anyone’s language but just there to add more and one of his claims is writing sentences.

Dr. Fish..

“You have to start with a simple but deep understanding of the game, which for my purposes is the game of writing sentences. So it makes sense to begin with the question, What is a sentence anyway? My answer has two parts:  (1) A sentence is an organization of items in the world.  (2) A sentence is a structure of logical relationships”.

Said by Fish I agree with his point but he never mentioned how important a quotation is to the writing center and also strongly agreed with Fish point which is middle school and high school teachers don’t really prepare or help us as student on the right way to collage and they leave it all to the the collage professors. 

Which leaves the collage professors to build every student from the base on how to use quotation because student must know how to use and when to use a quotation in there paper and if the student was never thought in the previous school they won’t understand the importance of the quotes.




In an email to professor Herbruck Lauren, an English instructor at The Ohio State University in Newark. I sent her questions based on how and why quotation is important in collage writing.

And she replied “ In academic writing, secondary sources are very important to develop and contextualize your own ideas and analysis. They allow you to respond to others’ ideas and add your own to the ongoing conversation about an issue or topic”.

You don’t only just using someone’s words you showing your readers that, there is someone knows more than you that support your point and giving them their proper credential

are you using quotation mark properly? 

In university of Carolina writing center I read an article that supports on how are you using quote properly? Some students do lack on to how or when to use the quotation marks I did an online research to when would I quote? “Use quotations at strategically selected moments. You have probably been told by teachers to provide as much evidence as possible in support of your thesis. But packing your paper with quotations will not necessarily strengthen your argument. The majority of your paper should still be your original ideas in your own words (after all, it’s your paper). And quotations are only one type of evidence.”

This short paragraph shows more important to how to use quoting by using someone’s word and explaining or to support your claim. Quoting is like bring a guest speaker to the stage and let them talk/ tell instead of you that supports your point.

After reading an article from this book I came across how quotation could be organized as three categories which is the following steps 

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/short-guide-to-college-writing-sylvan-barnet/1100056753

of course Quotation Sandwich 

A) Introduce your quotations
B) Discuss your quotation
C) judge your quotation                          Quoting sandwiches encourages writers to introduce quotes and discuss them afterwards. Keep in mind quote should be the supporter, not the supplier of information in an essay. This helps the reader separate the writer’s ideas from someone else’s idea, connects someone else’s ideas to the writer’s ideas, also understand the quote and why it supports the writer’s thesis statement and last but not least explains the context of the quote. 

Overall Fish has point that primary and secondary schools should focus on their students and teach them what they will expect from their future education because collage isn’t the place where the students opens their eyes and taught how to hold their pencil, how to read and ect.. But stead its where they should know what to expect and they been taught to how to build their paper on the previous schools. 

Quotation can provide important piece of evidence and lend fresh voices and perspectives to your narrative. Used ineffectively, however, quotations can clutter your text and interrupt the flow of your argument” this means don’t use a long sense when you only need quarter of it, also don’t make it bored that the reader only reads people’s words more than yours because you only need the quotation for the flavors. It’s like you cooked spaghetti and sources without any flavors like garlic so you missing the whole purpose of the yumminess of the food.