Thursday, April 26, 2018

Revising where would we be without it?

In an article written by Stanley Fish, In the article "What should College Teach?" in the article, Fish argues that High schools don't fully prepare Incoming College students for Writing in College. He strongly believes that they aren't equipped with the rights tools to write a proper sentence. As far stuff like grammar and goes. He says ''students should get to have their own variety and pattern of language''. He says that students are so unprepared for College writing that College Professor's have to reteach certain aspects all over again. Which is somewhere true, but mainly I think he's forgetting that it's just basic stuff like how to use grammar and writing in different ways, then we would have in high school.

I agree with Fish, to a certain degree. Yes as incoming freshmen in English 1109, who have never been to College before. I don't think we know how to properly write good sentences or papers for that matter. But I don't think he is giving students enough credit, by saying that what students learned in high school is completely useless. To me I think of writing as like a muscle in our body, the more we do it the better we get at it. That's why writing is so different from each stage of schooling. Each level of it is important. Think of it like lifting weights. You can't start lifting the most heavy weight in the room, you have to work your way up by building strength, by lifting smaller weights, then moving on to larger ones. High school is just one level below College. Personally I learned a lot about writing in High school, if gave me common grounds and things to work off of when I first started writing in College. If I didn't have those ideas or experience from high school at that level. I would be in trouble.
 

 When it comes to what is the most important thing to teach in College Writing, there are many
things. Revision has to one of them. I think Revision is the one of the most important parts of writing in general. In my opinion it's also one of the easiest, things to do. Because you already have the hard stuff out of the way, which is a lot research and of course writing. What's great about revision is all you have to do is take the stuff you have already written and just making a few small changes on it.

it all starts with one idea.
I figured this out, when I observed a student needing help with their paper, in the Writers Studio on the Ohio state Newark campus. When I observed a tutor help a student, the Student was worried that his paper didn't make sense, or wasn't good. The tutor looked over it, and the student had actually written a good paper, it just needed a few changes to make it better.  The tutor did something even more interesting that I personally had never seen before. The tutor printed out a copy of the students paper, and made some edits on the copy of where she thought spelling was off, or a sentence didn't make sense. The Tutor made all the edits on the copy, and not on the actual document. So the student could clearly see where they needed to fix some things. Really just fixing a few small
mistakes was the only problem the student had. For the most part you generally get the nail on the wall with the first draft of where you want to end up. It just needs polished to shine brighter. I started to notice that Revision was a major part of writing, because when I had to write another paper for another class, the Teacher told me, I got a bad grade on the paper, but My grade could have been better if I had reread over the paper a few times, because some of the sentences didn't make any sense.

I did some more research on the topic as the year went on. Interviewed the tutor, and asked why they thought printing it out, really helped. They Said, "It really helps them see where things need fixed, also I just give them so ideas of how to fix them, so in case they come up with better ideas later on of how to fix it, then they can use those instead of mine. Because generally they will find better ideas, then what I come up with, which is good, because it's not my paper. Or my work. I'm just here to push them in the right direction." I was also given the chance to email a professor outside of school named Brendon Lee, a former College professor at Columbia College in Chicago. He got a masters in English. I asked him if people missed anything in Revision or were doing it wrong, his response surprised me at first. "I'm not sure how to answer that. Many of my students don't revise. They want to get in and get out." is what he said. Which is true the more I think about it, could be one reason why our papers in High school, and sometimes now aren't so good. it could be why it lead Fish to
think that Students aren't prepared for College. Revision is important it's double checking to make sure everything is good, and makes sense. it's a way of organizing. I asked professor Brendon why revision is important  he said. "Revision is critical to the writing process because it allows you to get your words / ideas in the exact format you would like them to be in, which is something we can't do in normal speech. You can catch grammar errors, make sure you use apt evidence to support claims, etc." he also added "It's important to think of writing as a process. The more drafts, the better it'll likely be." I have to say learning from my own experience that writing multiple drafts and really looking at it again helps a ton, when writing. I have noticed that I didn't like the way I worded something. Once I read my final draft compared to my first, they were completely different, and my final was way better than my draft.

"Just double checking!"
I do agree with Fish, that knowing how to write a proper sentence and using English as a language to it's full potential is important thing to teach in College. If you can't write a proper sentence with the right grammar, then you paper will fall apart. But I don't think it's the only thing that should be taught in College. There are many important things that you have to teach students in College writing. I think Revision is one of them. It can literally change a C- paper into an A+ paper with just a few small changes. It really can make a difference. In my experience of writing in College so far, it's taking writing in general to a whole new level. It's like taking everything I have learned from the past few years of my life and testing their limits, and pushing them further than I could have expected. I may not have been fully prepared for College writing like fish thinks, but when you really think about it. How can you really be prepared for anything. Life has it's ways of throwing punches at you. The only thing you can do about it is keep on your feet, and do the best that can. I believe that's what we all are doing.


A college way to fish



Stanley Fish, wrote an article that was called What should colleges teach? Part 3. In this article, he explained how the high school teachers are not doing right by teaching the students the correct things to know for when they eventually start college, not even the middle school teachers are correct. In this article he stated, "First, you must clear your mind of the orthodoxies that have taken hold in the composition world." Which is very similar to my topic about brainstorming, clearing the mind first before anything else.

According to The Writing Studio at Colorado State University, "brainstorming is an informal way of generating topics to write about, or points to make about your topic. The writing studio stresses this informality...The important point about brainstorming is that there should be no pressure to be 'brilliant.' Students should simply open their minds to whatever pops into them." This quote ties in with Stanley Fish's comment because each quote refers to clearing the mind of everything you are used to doing. Our brains are always program to think, so it may be harder for others to even be able to clear their mind to focus on one topic instead of multiple topics at once. When thinking about one specific topic though you shouldn't think too hard, because it will create writers block and will prevent you from thinking of other ideas to further explain.
My brain has left

So, while I was completing my spring semester at The Ohio State University at Newark I used different data gathering assignments, for me to do my research for my big paper for my English 1109 class. I observed a tutoring session with the tutor named John, and a student named Teressa to gather information. After the session I was able to interview John, to get his feedback on topics they discussed. Once that was done, I created my own online survey and sent it to other college students to get feedback on their college writing experiences. After gathering information, I created an annotated bibliography which includes: a web source, a book source, and a journal article. Lastly, I had an email interview with a college professor Michael Czyzniejewski and was able to get more answers and his opinions.

When I first read Fish's article, I could see that he was correct when he stated how the teachers haven't prepared the students. In the results I received from my online survey, each college student struggled with the same thing in college writing which was organization. It's different when one person says their struggling, but when multiple people, who don't even know each other all say they are struggling with the same college writing aspect, then there is a true problem with the teachers. When you are not taught something correctly, it can truly affect future situations that happen because you will not be prepared, so you will not know what to do or how to even do it.
Please, no more questions!


After completely reading Fish's article and comparing it to my own research, it is safe to say that brainstorming should be taught more in the writing classrooms. Students struggle in college when they are trying to write a paper. It's common for college students to not be interested or motivated for their papers, but by using brainstorming you can include interests that you are passionate about. Including your interests can make it more fun because when you are interested in a topic you will be more motivated to write about it. If teachers were more encouraging on making students brainstorm before writing, they will be able to think clearly, and even quicken the writing process because they will know exactly what to talk about. Students can even use collaborative brainstorming if they are able to work in pairs or groups. It can help create new topics to talk about and get more in depth about topics one already has considered.This option of brainstorming is also important because some may think of ideas they would have never thought of before and can include that in their writing and improve it and make it stronger. Collaborative brainstorming helps students because it can bring thoughts together since we all think differently.
wow..I came a long way but I get it and understand!




Sentence Organization and outlines

What should be taught in college writing? In my 1109 English class we got introduced to an article what should colleges teach, part 3.  by Stanley Fish. In this article, he talks about how students come into college without knowing basic writing skills, due to high schools not teaching them properly. Fish also said, "basically, there is only one thing to be learned, that a sentence is a structure of logical relationships; everything else follows." So Fish believes that sentence structure is important. Why do we care what Fish thinks? Not only did Fish get his article posted in New York Times, but also has been teaching since 1986. He's taught at many different university's, and he's currently teaching at  Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law. In Newark York City. 
I wouldn't necessarily say I disagree with Fish's claim, that sentence structure is something important that should be taught. I think it's very important, but I happen to think teaching students to create an outline is more important. Outlining helps with organization, the structure of your paper, and revision. I also believe outlining is able to help with sentence structure by helping you break things down.

However, something I do agree with Fish on is that high schools didn't teach enough to prepare you for college. Obviously, when going into college you find it's more strict than high school is. There's completely different expectations than what you're used to. From personal experience and from the responses from the research I've done, I noticed a lot of us had a hard time with organization. That is something I would like to see high schools focus more on. Learning to create strong outlines to help with that.

When I was in high school we talked a little about how to create an outline, but they never made it seem like a big deal. They never made it clear on how helpful outlines really are. So, a lot of students didn't use them, including myself. There's so many papers that could have gotten a better grade had we been introduced to outlining more. Once I got to college, it all changed for me. 

This semester in college I had the opportunity of doing an observation with a student who was in an English 1110.03 class and I had an interview with a tutor named Lisa at the Ohio State University Newark Writers Studio. From there, I furthered my research with a survey I created for college students to take. I set up a another interview, but this time with teacher Karen Craigo who has been teaching since 1998. Lastly, I got to read some peer reviewed journals about outlining. 

I think the moment that stands out the most through all of my research goes back to the very beginning. In my observation with the student from the Writer's Studio, she had a hard time organizing her thoughts, and getting it from her head to the paper. So, the tutor had the idea to create an outline and from there on, the student was able to get a start to her paper and she was able to figure out what each paragraph would be about. Witnessing that helped me understand how helpful outlining really is. I was able to see how relieved the student was once she was able to get her thoughts together and organized.

The next time you have a big paper due, and you aren't sure how to begin it. Take a piece of paper, or a notebook, or even get on your computer and type up an outline. It doesn't have to be perfect, but just get your thoughts out. Don't worry about what's missing and what's not there yet, you will have time to go back later and fill that all in. If you want, just start with an outline that helps your sentence structure, like Fish said. Sentences are always important too. Once you have your outline created, you're already on your way to an A+ paper. So I'll ask the question again. What should be taught in college writing? The answer is one simple word, outlining.


Make an Outline your favorite part of writing



Do you want to be this stressed ? 
We all know that writing could be a hassle at times, especially for some. According to Fish, high school and middle schools are not teaching writing skills well, and honestly, I do agree with him. Stanley Fish wrote an article titled What Should Colleges Teach? Part 3. In this article he says that because students are coming in to college without being able to write "clean English sentences" and the college professors must make up for it. At this point you might be wondering who is this Stanley Fish? Stanley Fish is a Professor of Humanities and Law at Florida International University, he taught at other universities and wrote 15 books, so you can see he's credible.

Fish says that sentence structure is important in writing, and even though I do agree with him I feel that without planning, thinking, free writing, you won't be able to get the write sentence structure, you possibly won't know where to start. A couple weeks ago I was able observe a student during a tutoring session at The Ohio State University Newark Writers Studio and during that tutoring session the student started with an outline.
                                         
Road Map:Outline


I also remember looking up the definition of an outline from The University of Kansas Writing Center and what stood out to me was that "there are as many types of outlines as there are writers" meaning there is no one way to create an outline. In Fish's blog he brings up a time when he told his students to take a sentences like "John hit the ball' or "Jane likes cake" and make it to 100 words. this idea stood out to me because I thought about how difficult this might be, and how if I had to do something like that I would be erasing and adding a lot. Therefore I think thats when an outline would be helpful. You can start off with adding words that might make sense in the sentence.

it would help if you start with "broader topics and then work toward the specifics. " An outline is there for your needs, like a road map, or a GPS. When we are lost and need help getting to our destination we turn on our GPS. In this case the "Jane likes cake" or "John hit the ball" would be the starting point and the destination is the end hundred words . When I did the survey, I asked the students, how often do you create an outline before writing a paper, and most students picked one or less, I noticed that students see it as an option, I also noticed that students had a hard time starting a paper and keeping it flowing especially when the topic is about something you don’t know about. That’s why I think an outline should be a necessary step.

So yes, I do agree with Stanley Fish that sentence structure is important in writing, but I also think that you should always start with an outline first. Starting an outline should be made into a priority and not an option, especially if you have time. Make it a habit, and see how it goes . But try it, what do you have to lose? 


Nothing like Grammar

 

“What should college teach?,” by Stanley Fish makes some sense to me, because some students come to college as English Language Learners and other students did not learn grammar when they were in school. Those students get to their college classes and they cannot put a basic sentence together. Therefore, the professor does not have enough time to teach grammar in the class. The next thing students do is go to the writing center, where they try to show students the meaning of the papers and fix their grammar by reading aloud.
we both think grammar is important for college writer 

With respect, I agree in some way with Stanley Fish, because we all know that the important part of college writing is grammar and sentence structure so students can communicate information. So the importance of teaching grammar and the correct way of using the language is to show how to use the language, because it will be harder to write or to speak it if students do not know how to use it. This not only true with ELL students, but also native English speakers as well because they will not able to write if they do know how to use the correct grammar.

During my second semester in English 1109 I had an opportunity to do some research about college writing by asking different types of questions on Survey Monkey. The survey consisted of seven questions about college writing. Also,during my observation time with Sidney Kelley and Precious in the writing studio,I saw that when Sidney was helping Pleasure with her paper, Sidney was reading her paper aloud and this gave me an idea about what college writers do. Also, I interviewed John Wetzel in the Writing Studio for 30 minutes. When I asked him about how he helps student in writing studio with editing paper, he said, I will make them read the paper out loud. This lead me to discover reading aloud is important for collage writers. Lastly, as part of my research, I emailed Dr. David Arenas. When I asked him, “What is the advantage to reading your own writing aloud?” He responded, “ Reading aloud, I refine the text grammatically and stylistically.” I agree with Dr. David Arenas’ opinion that reading aloud helps with grammar mistakes.


writing studio with tutor
Okay, so why do I agree with Fish that the important part of college writing is grammar? As you read, my topic is reading aloud, which shows how very much similar the ideas we both have about grammar are, including how to identify the correct grammar by reading aloud. When you read aloud you may notice things that you did not see, like grammar errors. During my observation time with Sidney, I saw that when she was helping Pleasure with her paper, Sidney was reading the paper aloud, and as she did, Precious was listening to her and noticed things that she did not see before. Also, she heard errors in her sentences; sometimes writers leave out a word, or make a grammar mistake that they do not realize.



So okay, Fish and I had the same idea that grammar is important for college writers, but I am more likely to encourage reading aloud to correct your grammar and improve your writing. The reason why is that when I interviewed John Wetzel in the,The Ohio Sate University Writing Studio at Newark, and I asked him about how he helps student in the Writing Studio with editing papers, he said, “when I help a student by editing I will make them read the paper out loud and listen for errors, because when they listen carefully, they will be able to correct any errors that they hear." I agree with John, and in my opinion, reading your work aloud can be very helpful for many reasons as noted by some of the other professors. You can hear what you wrote. All my professors used to tell us to read our papers out loud as part of the editing and proofreading process.





 Reading aloud has many benefits that I want to share with college student writers. Catching grammatical mistakes is so important to college writing because without proper punctuation, things can get confusing. While Stanley Fish makes a great argument on the importance of grammar in college writing, and I agree with him in some ways, it should be encouraged by reading aloud.







Where would we been without prompts? No seriously

Secondary schools are responsible for way more fish.
What should be taught in college? In the article What Should College Teach by Stanley Fish, published by the New York Times in 2014; Fish states that english teachers from middle and high school are the blame for college students not being able to write write complete sentences or analyze them when they go on to college. He then goes on and states that college professors shouldn't have to go back and reteach something college students should already know, Fish is right about holding secondary schools responsible for it, but he is wrong when he says that professors shouldn't teach students how to analyze. I don't believe colleges should teach you sentence structure because that is something we should know by now even if our middle schools and high schools did a bad job on teaching how to. No college students wants to feel as if they were back in 6th grade.
  
How I feel after reading prompts.

Though I disagree with sentences being taught I do believe in analyzing being taught in college. Yes this is something we should know how to do as well. But when it comes to prompts it's a whole different ball park. In high school and middles school we're so used to using the 5 paragraph method that we're not so familiar with prompts. We believe all we need is an Intro, three body paragraphs and a conclusion. It's not like that in college. They expect more from you and how can we give them what they want if we don't know how to analyze prompts? This is why college professors should spend more time on teaching students how to analyze prompts. 


That's right I might be onto something

I came to this conclusion during my research for my English 1109 project on what we thought the most important thing was in college writing. I started by observing a tutoring session at the OSU Newark Writing Studio center. The session belong to a freshman student name Ciara. I witnessed Ciara struggle with ideas that were already in the prompts. If she would of just re read the prompt while she was brainstorming she could have came to this conclusion sooner. This made me realize what's more important than prompts because that's the reason your writing anyways. Sadly as college students we still don't know how to fully take advantage of prompts and who better teach us how better than the professor who wrote them themselves.


To get more of a idea on what teachers want students to take from prompts , I had a interview through email with a english teacher from the University of Massachusetts. Dr. Leuca who teaches multiple writing classes, she believes that " students should refer to the prompts four times, when first when you received the prompt, again when you start to draft, again when you revise, and , ideally, to do a final check before you submit."I know I know. Who's really going to check their paper four times, but would you rather catch your mistakes yourself or have your professor find them? To get a student view I conducted a survey on Survey monkey, and six out of ten college students that took my survey voted prompts as being the most important thing in writing college. If students feels this way about prompts then teachers should feel the same way and spend more time on it as well.

I think Fish was right about sentences but ours aren't the sentences we need help on. From personal experience if I don't understand something in the prompt I would leave it out and focus on the stuff I do understand. This has caused me to lose a lot of points on papers. Don't be like me you should use your resources and ask someone for help, or try highlighting things you don't know so you can remember to go back and get help and if these don't work try talking to your professor. 

Organization is like a puzzle

In the article What Should Colleges Teach Part 3,  Stanley Fish stated "High schools and middle schools are not teaching writing skills in an effective way." I agree with this statement by Fish because I just graduated from high school in 2017 and I believe that I have learned so much more from Professor Boczkowski in just one semester of college than I learned through middle and high school. Public schools today seem to be focused mainly on teaching to the test instead of preparing students for higher learning. Many writing skills that should be proficient as students begin their college career are mediocre and many times require's extra help from your professors. As college students start their college journey and it becomes evident that their writing skills are not up to par, Fish states that it is the responsibility of the college professors to meet the students at their level and provide instruction that will help them with their future essays. 


A day to celebrate, now to the next chapter 
Professors need to provide students with a framework  that will allow them to introduce their subject with a strong thesis. Then the student should follow with detailed writing that provides evidence and analysis of the topic. College professors should help students to leave their audience with strong concluding paragraphs that recap the main idea of the essay. One of the most important skills that professors need to leave students with is the critical task of citing sources in order to give credit to works and sources written by authors.

Fish believes writing begins with composing a simple sentence and then developing it into more complex sentences which provides further detail. This is compared to providing a strong foundation and then building upon it to develop your analysis of the essay.  He also stated that the Catholic schools seem to be doing a better job of teaching the writing process. They seem to be able to build a better foundation and provide their students the opportunity to practice and perfect their writing.


In English 1109, we were faced with the question Why is organization important to college writing? Through various research gathering assignments, such as the survey on SurveyMonkey, teacher interview, and the tutorial observation in the Ohio State - Newark Writers Studio. I found that the following areas are what current college students struggle with the most: planning, detailed paragraphs, and proper citations. 


I believe that planning and outlining your topic and ideas is key to organization. This allows you to order your main topics and write paragraphs that are both detailed and use transitions to help make your essay flow in a logical sequence. Breaking up the essay into manageable parts in an outline form, helps to not make the whole process seem overwhelming. The outline provides a framework just as you do when starting a puzzle. 


Piece by piece a framework is created
Developing detailed paragraphs helps the reader to visualize what the writer is trying to explain. When the writer's main purpose is to describe, they must give details about the topic in an organized and specific way, in order, to provide clarity to the reader. I feel that in order to explain, it is essential to give details in a chronological order from the beginning to the end. If the writer fails to do this, then the reader will be lost within the remainder of the paper and the meaning will be lost.

I believe the most critical part of writing an essay is to cite and format your research information correctly. Since much of college writing is researching and quoting sources that give proof to how and where the information is found, it is necessary for students to give credit to their sources in order to not plagiarize. Students also need to remember when they use words directly from an author, to use quotation marks to quote and properly give credit to the author with their last name, parentheses, and page number. Organizing and keeping track of your sources is a key component that will help you as you write your bibliography for your works cited page.

Fish concluded that in order for students to have a strong writing background, it is necessary for them to be not only be exposed to reading throughout their younger year but that they must be given the opportunity to practice the writing process. Students must learn the foundations of the writing process. Learning to outline, write detailed paragraphs in order to give full meaning to your topic, and correctly cite sources are important parts of college writing. I know that for me, the more I am forced to practice my writing skills, the better they have become.  







Contemplation: Sentence or Citation?

What is most important to becoming a great college writer? Sure there are many different aspects that tie together that you can do correctly to make you good, but getting down to the nitty gritty, there should be a certain aspect of writing you believe is most important that you often end up focusing on more than all the other elements of writing. I am attending the Ohio State University at Newark in my first year of college.  In an assignment through my English 1109 class, we were introduced to Stanley Fish. In his blog What Should Colleges Teach? Part 3, he states that the most important aspect in writing is that organizing and structuring sentences. He stresses that this has become the biggest issue and most important because of how students are taught in high school. He ends up with students in his class that didn't learn basic writing skills while in high school.

While I agree with Fish that yes, making sure that you are able to provide organized sentences, I believe that it is more important to be able to correctly cite the sentences you have in order to give credit where due, and to show why what is in your sentences is important because you wouldn't want people thinking the information your giving them was false or unreliable.

Really though, why should we believe you?

For my English 1109 class, we were told to pick what we felt was most important and give good reasons as to why we felt that way through an Analytical Research Essay. Like Fish, I was able to gather data for my assignment. With his gathering, he had sampled answers from students about being able to craft good sentences with random words.

For me, I had surveyed students on which part they felt they struggled with the most in college and 60% of them ranging from all grades whether it be freshmen or seniors had agreed that correctly citing was the biggest problem for them. At the Writing Studio located on my college campus I was able to sit down and observe  Peer Writing Consultant Elijah Lithuluxa and student Trey during his writing help session. Trey was struggling with writing his citations out correctly. He had all of the information he wanted to say but wasn’t able to give credit correctly because he wasn’t citing right, which made his information useless.

When I was in high school we did talk about citations just like we talked about writing good sentences, but like Fish claimed, good sentence structure wasn't covered as in depth as it should have been, likewise with citations. Both are very important, I do think you need to know how to craft your sentences first with the information you are going to be using but it is more important to prove what you're saying so people will believe your points.


Take that, Fish!
Fish says structuring your sentences is the most important to college writing and I agree that yes it is important, but not MOST important. What do we do in college? We’re required to spew information back to our professors that has meaning and isn’t just bogus we rattled off the tops of our head. So where did we get this good information from then that we are creating into our own sentences that Fish talks about? That’s right, other people. In a nutshell, all college writing is, is showing meaning through your paper weather it be using statistics, persuading using an other's credibility to back up your own idea, or using sources to inform the reader of your knowledge gained and what you have learned from your sources. THERE IS VIRTUALLY NO PAPER THAT YOU CAN WRITE IN COLLEGE THAT DOESN’T NEED CITED!

Citations should be something everyone is able to do correctly. It should be taught, and taught extensively as soon as you’re required to write papers for any kind of schooling, in AT LEAST high school. Nonetheless, it should be required to be able to come to college. For every class we take in college, there is going to be a paper that we write that has some type of citation in it.

Citing is the most important part in college writing.
There are no loopholes to get out of citing.
It has to be done every single time.
If done incorrectly, everything you say is wrong, or is plagiarism.

Knowing how to cite is your key to getting through college.
Mic drop, Kimberly out.





Wednesday, April 25, 2018

Feedback? No where without it



Stanley fish the writer of What should colleges Teach? Part 3, believes there is three main things that should be focused on in college. The first one being ''students should get to have their own variety and pattern of language''. The second thing he believes is important is sentence structure organization,and the third thing is the students should set up how they choose to learn things. He believes being able to do things on your own is key.


Fish has many great ideas, but i believe without feedback nun of this is able to be done correctly. according to the university of North Carolina feedback is ''constructive steps to improve on your writing'' feedback is there to help you improve on something your unsure about. So, Stanley second thing about sentence structure would not be anything with out feedback. we can all agree sentence structure is important, but i know we can also say we have had some what of a struggle to put these good sentence together. So the best idea would be to receive feedback from anyone you can receive it from.


In my observation at the Ohio state Newark writers studio i seen how important feedback was to a student. The student received feedback from a tutor which is also a peer ,and she helped him understand feedback from his professor.This studio is what colleges need all around . receiving feedback from a peer is very important. i feel often times colleges do not give the students this opportunity. Feedback is one of the most important parts for college writing in my eyes.There is so much new to discover. Getting feedback can make your paper do a three sixty, and take you to a new direction.


Fish discusses the importance of sentence structure, but i think that just something small. NO Feedback is like having a fish out of water. Feedback is a way to get good structure on your sentences. Without feedback your unable to get the full meaning of what the main focus is your trying to prove. when creating sentence you want to know what to improve on, so when these sentences come together in a paper they are well prepared and written. Nothing is perfect the first time around so why not receive feedback.

I know for me recently i had to write a paper for my English class. This paper needed to show the importance of feedback. I was some what at times unsure where my paper was going. I then decided to proofread my own paper in which i knew i was sure not going to find anything wrong. I then decided that why not receive feedback from my professor the one who wants me to write this paper.
From then on my paper begin to form into what i wanted it to. The main thing was getting to realize that i needed feedback. i was first very scared to ask because i didn't want to seem like i didn't know what i was doing, but it worked and helped a lot. if i was never told from my professor if i needed feedback i probably would of never received it. Feedback is on of the major key things in college with out it you cant get anywhere.

Feedback is something that everyone should know about. Not just in college but everywhere, but i do believe college is the number one important place where feedback starts to come in handy. In college its where you life starts, this is what is going to make or break your future. So if people do not know what feedback is and how to receive it college is the place for it to be discussed. I know for me feedback has become my best friend, and i know if others knew how to receive it to the fullest it would be their best friend too. so, when nothing else seems important just know feedback is.